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	<title>Comments on: The C++ preprocessor &#8211; undefined tokens</title>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
		<link>http://nealabq.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-c-preprocessor-undefined-tokens/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, seems like a bad idea to me too. I suspect it came about because some C compilers back in the loose-standards day were doing this. Dunno, maybe they wanted to avoid short-circuited evaluation of the #if test.

But I&#039;m pretty sure the standards guys thought and fought about it, and had good reasons at the time.

Still, small consolation after you&#039;ve wasted hours hunting down a bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, seems like a bad idea to me too. I suspect it came about because some C compilers back in the loose-standards day were doing this. Dunno, maybe they wanted to avoid short-circuited evaluation of the #if test.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m pretty sure the standards guys thought and fought about it, and had good reasons at the time.</p>
<p>Still, small consolation after you&#8217;ve wasted hours hunting down a bug.</p>
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		<title>By: yonil</title>
		<link>http://nealabq.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-c-preprocessor-undefined-tokens/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>yonil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after running into this issue myself, and spending a couple hours hunting a bug related to a side effect of this NOT_DEFINED issue, I&#039;m bewildered. what was the standards commitee thinking when they allowed the preprocessor to substitute 0 for undefined tokens? it should omit a level 1 warning at minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after running into this issue myself, and spending a couple hours hunting a bug related to a side effect of this NOT_DEFINED issue, I&#8217;m bewildered. what was the standards commitee thinking when they allowed the preprocessor to substitute 0 for undefined tokens? it should omit a level 1 warning at minimum.</p>
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